Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/10/1999 TBA House URS

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  HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON UTILITY RESTRUCTURING                                                                              
                 February 10, 1999                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 OVERVIEW: PHASE 1 AK RURAL ELECTRIC CO-OP(ARECA)                                                                               
           BACKGROUND ON UTILITY NETWORK                                                                                        
           AURORA POWER                                                                                                         
           MUNICIPAL LIGHT & POWER (ML&P)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
TAPE(S)                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The recording begins with Tape 99-2A, Side B, and continues on Tape                                                             
99-2A, Side A, and then concludes on Tape 99-2B, Side A.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN BILL HUDSON called the House Special Committee on Utility                                                              
Restructuring meeting to order at an unspecified time.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Members present at the call to order were Representatives Hudson,                                                               
Cowdery, Green, and Porter.  Representatives Davies, Rokeberg and                                                               
Berkowitz arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
OTHERS PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Eric Yould, Executive Director, Alaska Rural Electric Cooperative                                                               
Association, Incorporated; Mary Ann Pease, Aurora Power Resources,                                                              
Incorporated; Meera Kohler, General Manager, Municipal Light &                                                                  
Power;                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[The recording begins with Tape 99-2A , Side B, and continues on                                                                
Tape 99-2A, Side A, and then concludes on Tape 99-2B, Side A.]                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ERIC YOULD, Executive Director, Alaska Rural Electric Cooperative                                                               
Association, Incorporated (ARECA), discussed ARECA, the trade                                                                   
association that represents the utility industry in Alaska.  Mr.                                                                
Yould stated, "I'm really not here to advocate a position for or                                                                
against restructuring, in general."  He noted that although ARECA                                                               
strongly supports the study initiated by the interim committee with                                                             
the APUC, ARECA questions the voracity, viability and timing of the                                                             
pilot study.  Mr. Yould also noted that most utilities are opposed                                                              
to any restructuring in rural Alaska.  The discussion then turned                                                               
to the federal activity in the area of deregulation as well as                                                                  
state activity in order to provide a background of the utility                                                                  
industry in the state.  There was also discussion regarding some of                                                             
the standards that ARECA would like to see.  Mr. Yould anticipated                                                              
deregulation on a national scale as there are two bills, at                                                                     
minimum, that will be introduced this year.  One bill, which is                                                                 
very encompassing, was introduced by the Clinton Administration.                                                                
The other bill by Senator Murkowski, which has yet to be                                                                        
introduced, would basically have no state mandate and no date                                                                   
certain but rather would make it appropriate for states, if in                                                                  
their best interest, to adopt utility deregulation [in a manner                                                                 
appropriate for them].  He reviewed the status of what is happening                                                             
in the Lower 48 and noted that the National Rural Electric                                                                      
Cooperative Association website keeps a summary of such                                                                         
information.  The discussion of the energy market in the Lower 48                                                               
was related to the energy market in Alaska.  The discussion then                                                                
turned to Alaska's situation, specifically the difference between                                                               
the Railbelt and the rural areas.  Mr. Yould mentioned the                                                                      
following deregulation issues:  market presence/ monopolization,                                                                
"cherry picking", stranded costs, obligation to serve under                                                                     
deregulation, reliability and tax exempt status.  In regards to                                                                 
pilot programs, Mr. Yould noted that the utility industry would be                                                              
more favorable of such if the study first establishes the merits of                                                             
restructuring.  He then reviewed the conclusions provided by the                                                                
General Managers [of the electric industry].                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY ANN PEASE, Vice President, Aurora Power Resources,                                                                         
Incorporated, reviewed who Aurora Power is, the benefits of                                                                     
competition, the pilot program pending before APUC, the objectives                                                              
and goals of the pilot program.  She also reviewed some of the                                                                  
issues that Mr. Yould didn't cover as well as some of the issues                                                                
which she had a slightly different view on such as the retail cost                                                              
of electricity, the residential input, publicly-owned versus                                                                    
investor-owned [utilities], urban and rural issues, and stranded                                                                
costs.  In conclusion, she mentioned some legislative                                                                           
considerations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MEERA KOHLER, General Manager, Municipal Light & Power (ML&P),                                                                  
discussed how the restructuring impetus has occurred gradually in                                                               
the Lower 48 as technological and economic factors have driven the                                                              
costs of generating electricity.  Ms. Kohler discussed the                                                                      
interstate power grid, which makes it feasible to move energy                                                                   
across the [Lower 48].  This is not the case in Alaska as areas are                                                             
physically isolated from one another, specifically the rural areas                                                              
are physically isolated from the Railbelt which is physically                                                                   
isolated from the Lower 48 grid.  Furthermore, Alaska doesn't have                                                              
sufficient funds to cure either problem and thus if there is to be                                                              
competitive local generation sources, they have to be located in                                                                
the end-user area.  The discussion, then, turned to the bottle neck                                                             
transmission facility and the marginal savings that could be                                                                    
achieved through power pooling and unbundling.  The need to address                                                             
consumer issues was noted as she predicted consumer confusion,                                                                  
which would potentially result in the abuse of consumer interests.                                                              
She then discussed the electric restructuring efforts in the Lower                                                              
48, which have received mixed reviews.  She specifically discussed                                                              
the situations in California and Oregon.  She expressed concern                                                                 
that the relatively fragile Alaskan infrastructure would make                                                                   
policy reversals a lot more risky than in other parts of the                                                                    
country.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOHLER, then, reviewed the basic principles that [ML&P]                                                                     
believes should be followed in electrical restructuring.  Those are                                                             
competition, safety, reliability, availability.  It was noted that                                                              
change should not disadvantage any area nor should it create a                                                                  
windfall to a particular area.  The need for an Alaskan solution                                                                
was emphasized.  The positive and negative aspects of the joint                                                                 
study commissioned by the APUC and the Joint Committee on HCR 34                                                                
were discussed.  In conclusion, questions regarding the pilot                                                                   
project in the Railbelt and rebuttals to some of Ms. Pease's                                                                    
comments were addressed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A question and answer session followed.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
NOTE:  The meeting was recorded and a copy of the tapes may be                                                                  
obtained by contacting the House Records Office at 130 Seward                                                                   
Street, Suite 211, Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182, (907) 465-2214, and                                                              
after adjournment of the second session of the Twenty-first Alaska                                                              
State Legislature, in the Legislative Reference Library, (907)                                                                  
465-3808.                                                                                                                       

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